tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1506238478350135756.post2540656694885179056..comments2024-03-18T05:16:32.037-04:00Comments on Whiskey Obsessive: Wheaters part 4: The Great Wheater NightRyan Connollyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04926999824540595625noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1506238478350135756.post-4735685363526054992024-03-06T03:59:55.533-05:002024-03-06T03:59:55.533-05:00"Pappy 15" refers to Pappy Van Winkle..."Pappy 15" refers to Pappy Van Winkle's Family Reserve 15 Year Old Bourbon (Pappy Van Winkle's Family Reserve 15 Year Old Bourbon), which is one of the most highly regarded and watched bourbon whiskeys. The Pappy Van Winkle range of whiskeys is world-renowned for its rarity and outstanding taste.<br /><br />Pappy 15 is a 15-year-old bourbon in this series. It has been aged for a long time and displays complex and delicate flavor characteristics. This whiskey is often described as having strong flavors of vanilla, oak, caramel and spice, with a rich, balanced and persistent taste.<br /><br />Due to the rarity and high quality of the Pappy Van Winkle series of whiskeys, especially the 15-year-old version, Pappy 15 is highly sought after by whiskey collectors and enthusiasts. However, due to extremely limited supply, Pappy 15 is often difficult to obtain and sometimes needs to be purchased through specialized channels or auctions, and the price may be relatively high.<br /><br />Overall, Pappy 15 is considered a rarity among bourbons and represents a rare treat and collectible value for whiskey lovers who seek quality and unique experiences.Top ten glass bottle manufacturers in Chinahttps://www.vitglassbottle.com/12965.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1506238478350135756.post-45094208323725691662013-09-05T16:42:07.644-04:002013-09-05T16:42:07.644-04:00and yet wouldn't you say the 12 is smoother ev...and yet wouldn't you say the 12 is smoother even though it's drier? Thanks for the reply by the way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1506238478350135756.post-44681091633979227222013-09-05T08:56:15.724-04:002013-09-05T08:56:15.724-04:00I've always found the WSR sweeter but much mor...I've always found the WSR sweeter but much more boring and watery. The 12 is more complex, nuttier and drier to me.Ryan Connollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04926999824540595625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1506238478350135756.post-11455430602206768912013-09-05T06:30:12.675-04:002013-09-05T06:30:12.675-04:00Could you tell me the difference in palate between...Could you tell me the difference in palate between the WLReserve and the WL 12? Is one sweeter than the other? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1506238478350135756.post-64270692618878881412013-03-11T11:29:00.589-04:002013-03-11T11:29:00.589-04:00Good point on both counts about the WLW; it's ...Good point on both counts about the WLW; it's really not a large amount. Though I really like it, I think my dissatisfaction comes form it offering only proof over the 12 (as such a terrible price per proof differential); if they'd make it a 17-18 year old like Stagg, I think it would be incredible.<br /><br />As for availability, Weller 12 is not available in PA or NJ; I have to order from NY or CA. I may have to visit Texas!<br /><br />We were actually going to try the Pappy/Stagg vatting and I think it would likely be awesome. I just added drops of Stagg into a glass of JPS until the flavor was there, but not overpowering (probably 10-15% Stagg). Look forward to hearing how it turns out.Ryan Connollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04926999824540595625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1506238478350135756.post-74055124134463822492013-03-11T11:17:58.148-04:002013-03-11T11:17:58.148-04:00Wow, what a lineup for one evening! I have also cr...Wow, what a lineup for one evening! I have also created a vatting of age stated OWA with Weller 12. To me it is the perfect comboination of age and proof. <br /><br />I think that removing WLW from the BT Antique collection would be a bad idea. They only pull about 40 barrels per year for this bottling. What I would like to see is that BT would pull from older stocks (15-18 years) To keep in more in line with the age of Stagg, ER17, and Saz 18. What I like best about the WLW is that it is the only available uncut, unfiltered wheater at this time. You mention several times in your post that you would remove several BT wheaters in exchange for more Weller 12. Is there a shortage of Weller 12 in your neck of the woods? In Texas, I can get just as much Wellee 12 as I can Jim Beam or Jack Daniels!<br /><br />Your Idea of a DIY Hirsch 16 sounds intriguing since I have never been lucky enough to sample a true pour of Hirsch 16. I do not have any JPS18, but would you recommend substituting Pappy 15 or 20 to accompany the Stagg to try and hit the Hirsch 16 flavor profile? Also what proportion of Stagg/Pappy would you suggest?<br /><br />JoshAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1506238478350135756.post-54291728067203853632013-03-11T07:36:05.784-04:002013-03-11T07:36:05.784-04:00I'll get the batch # for you this evening. I a...I'll get the batch # for you this evening. I agree that they vary. This one had a more prominent, grassy note on the midpalate than I remember, and it was certainly drier than the JPS 18, which I felt held its own better with the Pappy 15. Overall, I agree with the assessment that the JPS 18 is more similar to the Pappy 20; I just like the 15 better than both.<br /><br />As you say, it was a total blast.Ryan Connollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04926999824540595625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1506238478350135756.post-20313924385202920882013-03-11T01:16:30.645-04:002013-03-11T01:16:30.645-04:00I would be interested to know what Batch of JPS 18...I would be interested to know what Batch of JPS 18 you were working from? They vary some (not that any I have tried are bad per se), but I have tasted them against Pappy 15, 20, Lot B, ORVW 90, Vintage 17, in a similar set up and thought it more than held its own with Pappy 15 (I believe I had some batch 14). I have always preferred 20, which I think is a little more similar to JPS. Thinner mouthfeel, more rock candy, less creme brulee than the 15. Either way I bet this tasting was a blast. ilium55noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1506238478350135756.post-35522484364775691782013-03-10T13:26:23.314-04:002013-03-10T13:26:23.314-04:00Thanks for commenting, and for helping out with th...Thanks for commenting, and for helping out with the Bernheim info: I could not find the exact info anywhere. I will update (I'd acknowledge you, but the post was anonymous)<br /><br />As for getting rid of BT expressions, I think it's fun to discuss, even if we disagree. I think that the current OWA is just a bit too young. As for WLW and Weller 12, I just don't find the extra 15% alcohol to be worth 2.4x the cost.<br /><br />Lucky for you, no one is really asking my opinion about getting rid of anything. Though with wheated bourbon stocks as they are, you have to wonder.Ryan Connollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04926999824540595625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1506238478350135756.post-73315224216721336632013-03-10T13:04:52.070-04:002013-03-10T13:04:52.070-04:00Couldn't disagree more. If Buffalo Trace neede...Couldn't disagree more. If Buffalo Trace needed to get rid of Weller Special Reserve or Old Weller Antique, why would anyone want to lose the higher proof option? Also, I would gladly kick Weller 12 to the curb for greater access to William Larue Weller. I will pay the difference in cost, because I feel strongly that WLW is that much better. <br /><br />Also, Vintage 17 was not distilled by Heaven Hill. Yes, it was distilled at Bernheim, but likely by United Distillers. Anything distilled by Heaven Hill there would just now be reaching 17 years old.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com